Vista x64 & driver signing

__s
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Re: Vista x64 & driver signing

Post by __s » Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:11 pm

acually there is a RTM build of vista already. vincent whole wolrd is watching u, we really depend on u. we prase u. pls give us drivers before hollydays ))

thanx man anyway

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Re: Vista x64 & driver signing

Post by VincentG » Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:34 pm

Yes there is, but we won't have any software updates, until after the offical release to the consumer market.

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Re: Vista x64 & driver signing

Post by trainguru » Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:59 pm

Will you be issueing beta drivers in the mean time? I noticed that you released beta drivers for other previous updates.

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Re: Vista x64 & driver signing

Post by VincentG » Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:15 pm

When we have some beta software available to post, I'm sure we will post it.

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Re: Vista x64 & driver signing

Post by Highwayman » Sat Jan 27, 2007 4:57 pm

Any news guys?

Vista is now available to the general public here in Australia... and XP has just had another of it's "episodes". Rather than rebuild it with XP, I'd rather do a fresh install with Vista x64, and believe it or not, the Track IR is the only thing stopping me... I just cant fly without it!

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Re: Vista x64 & driver signing

Post by Spong » Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:39 pm

+1 just received TrackIR in the mail, and can't install it on my work or home x64 machines due to the driver signing thing.

How's it coming along - any updates, ballpark ETAs etc you can share?

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Re: Vista x64 & driver signing

Post by Spong » Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:20 am

Turns out there is a way of running unsigned drivers under x64 - sign them yourself:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa906247.aspx

I wouldn't recommend it for anyone that didn't already have the WDK installed (eg, a device driver developer comfortable with code signing and fiddling with INFs). Following those instructions ends you up in "Test Mode", which is prominently displayed in all corners of all screens. Better idea to wait for the official signed drivers.

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Re: Vista x64 & driver signing

Post by VincentG » Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:30 pm

It is being worked on. As far as a time frame goes, we can't be specific, (as you all know, software commitments are a dangerous thing!), it will come as soon as we can make it happen.

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Re: Vista x64 & driver signing

Post by scottm » Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:22 pm

OK, guys. Today Vista is officially available to the public, so I think it's time to rant a bit. This is by far the most viewed thread in the FR board, so I think it's safe to say that there's a non-trivial number of customers that are very interested in this. It's not even a SMOP, how hard can it be?

I looked into this a bit. It doesn't look all that hard, but it is mildly obnoxious. There's a good document that describes it pretty well at http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/pl ... gning.mspx. Here's my summary:

1) Developer must obtain a software publishing certificate from a certificate authority that supports Windows Vista Kernel Mode Code Signing. There are limited sources for the appropriate certificate, and they aren't cheap.

2) Developer obtains a cross signing certificate from MS at http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/winlogo/d ... scert.mspx (which also doubles as a list of certificate authorities that support Vista Kernel Mode Code Signing).

3) The driver distribution is signed with the SPC and the cross signing cert using SignTool.exe from dev kits.

Extra hoops are available to jump through if you want to use the Windows Logo Program or if your driver needs to load during boot. There's no way for an end user to do this themselves, unless they are inclined to spends hundreds of dollars for the code signing certificate.

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Re: Vista x64 & driver signing

Post by VincentG » Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:42 pm

As I recall, the issue with the 64 bit version is not just the standard certification is required, but "kernel" certification.

It is being worked on. As far as a time frame goes, we can't be specific, (as you all know, software commitments are a dangerous thing!), it will come as soon as we can make it happen.

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