TrackIR Beta releases, Windows 8 and Prepar3d support

ontheair
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Re: TrackIR Beta releases, Windows 8 and Prepar3d support

Post by ontheair » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:01 am

Hi,

"It is recommended that you uninstall previous versions of TrackIR through your control panel before installing 5.2 or 4.2."

is there any file(s) or folder to save before removing the current installation ? for example : settings.xml and profiles folder ?

as you provide 2 beta versions, what's the difference between 5.2 and 4.2

regards

NaturalPoint - Mike
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Re: TrackIR Beta releases, Windows 8 and Prepar3d support

Post by NaturalPoint - Mike » Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:33 am

4.2 is a continuation of the 4.x line. We were planning on killing it when we went to 5.x, however it proved useful to people experiencing issues with ATI OpenGL processing as well as non vector TrackIR 3 customers.

There shouldn't be any files that need to be saved unless you have specifically modified the pre-installed ones. Post installation new profiles should persist.

Penzoil3
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Re: TrackIR Beta releases, Windows 8 and Prepar3d support

Post by Penzoil3 » Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:50 pm

Well, look who got embarrassed when the community found that the problem was not simmconnect, but the version checker. Had to do something when we all found out about the language.dll fix, eh ?
Gee Thanks
Sue

Doorman
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Re: TrackIR Beta releases, Windows 8 and Prepar3d support

Post by Doorman » Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:40 pm

Tracking target button now no longer turns the selected button (TrackClipPro or TrackClip) orange. Could be a deal breaker.:-)
Apart from that, seems like business as usual. Or is it? It could be the placebo effect but it seems smoother and more responsive. Mmm.

EDIT: Tell you what though, various options are saved straight away. Before, it would take several goes before it saved a profile to FSX or start minimised etc. So some good work been goin' on!

hesynergy
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Re: TrackIR Beta releases, Windows 8 and Prepar3d support

Post by hesynergy » Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:34 am

....ahem....except that it won't install....deleted previous version of TrackIR5. I've downloaded and tried installing more than several times....Process monitor shows:
"Time of Day","Process Name","PID","Operation","Path","Result","Detail"
"3:22:58.0918036 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","Thread Create","","SUCCESS","Thread ID: 1560"
"3:22:58.0919313 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","Thread Create","","SUCCESS","Thread ID: 6612"
"3:24:35.1007093 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","Thread Exit","","SUCCESS","Thread ID: 1560, User Time: 0.0000000, Kernel Time: 0.0000000"
"3:24:35.1007881 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","Thread Exit","","SUCCESS","Thread ID: 6612, User Time: 0.0000000, Kernel Time: 0.0000000"

hesynergy
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Re: TrackIR Beta releases, Windows 8 and Prepar3d support

Post by hesynergy » Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:40 am

and this showed up in Procmon after I had to use Task Manager to close the STALLED-install program:
"Time of Day","Process Name","PID","Operation","Path","Result","Detail"
"3:22:58.0918036 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","Thread Create","","SUCCESS","Thread ID: 1560"
"3:22:58.0919313 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","Thread Create","","SUCCESS","Thread ID: 6612"
"3:24:35.1007093 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","Thread Exit","","SUCCESS","Thread ID: 1560, User Time: 0.0000000, Kernel Time: 0.0000000"
"3:24:35.1007881 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","Thread Exit","","SUCCESS","Thread ID: 6612, User Time: 0.0000000, Kernel Time: 0.0000000"
"3:33:04.2215612 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","RegQueryKey","HKLM","SUCCESS","Query: HandleTags, HandleTags: 0x0"
"3:33:04.2215814 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","RegOpenKey","HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\RunOnceEntries","NAME NOT FOUND","Desired Access: Read/Write"
"3:33:04.2284000 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","Thread Exit","","SUCCESS","Thread ID: 7312, User Time: 3.5412227, Kernel Time: 0.2028013"
"3:33:04.2284701 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","Thread Exit","","SUCCESS","Thread ID: 3420, User Time: 0.0000000, Kernel Time: 0.0000000"
"3:33:04.2295335 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","Process Exit","","SUCCESS","Exit Status: 1, User Time: 3.5412227 seconds, Kernel Time: 0.2028013 seconds, Private Bytes: 3,014,656, Peak Private Bytes: 3,203,072, Working Set: 9,568,256, Peak Working Set: 10,719,232"
"3:33:04.2295525 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","RegCloseKey","HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Image File Execution Options","SUCCESS",""
"3:33:04.2295806 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","CloseFile","C:\Windows","SUCCESS",""
"3:33:04.2296772 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","RegCloseKey","HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Image File Execution Options","SUCCESS",""
"3:33:04.2296860 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","CloseFile","F:\downloads","SUCCESS",""
"3:33:04.2297095 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","CloseFile","C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.7601.17514_none_41e6975e2bd6f2b2","SUCCESS",""
"3:33:04.2297246 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","RegCloseKey","HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Nls\Sorting\Versions","SUCCESS",""
"3:33:04.2297394 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","RegCloseKey","HKLM","SUCCESS",""
"3:33:04.2297448 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","RegCloseKey","HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\SESSION MANAGER","SUCCESS",""
"3:33:04.2297560 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","RegCloseKey","HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Nls\CustomLocale","SUCCESS",""
"3:33:04.2297732 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","RegCloseKey","HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Image File Execution Options\DllNXOptions","SUCCESS",""
"3:33:04.2297792 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","CloseFile","C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft.vc90.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_9.0.30729.6161_none_50934f2ebcb7eb57","SUCCESS",""
"3:33:04.2299718 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","RegCloseKey","HKU","SUCCESS",""
"3:33:04.2299794 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","RegCloseKey","HKCU","SUCCESS",""
"3:33:04.2299893 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","CloseFile","F:\downloads\TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","SUCCESS",""
"3:33:04.2300053 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","RegCloseKey","HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Nls\Locale","SUCCESS",""
"3:33:04.2300168 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","RegCloseKey","HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Nls\Locale\Alternate Sorts","SUCCESS",""
"3:33:04.2300219 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","RegCloseKey","HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Nls\Language Groups","SUCCESS",""
"3:33:04.2300304 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","CloseFile","C:\Windows\Fonts\StaticCache.dat","SUCCESS",""
"3:33:04.2300524 AM","TrackIR_5.2.beta.01(1).exe","3200","RegCloseKey","HKCU\Software\Classes","SUCCESS",""

NaturalPoint - Mike
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Re: TrackIR Beta releases, Windows 8 and Prepar3d support

Post by NaturalPoint - Mike » Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:28 pm

Beta 2 is in internal testing, look for it shortly.

Seth Steiling
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Re: TrackIR Beta releases, Windows 8 and Prepar3d support

Post by Seth Steiling » Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:00 pm

[quote=Sue] Well, look who got embarrassed when the community found that the problem was not simmconnect, but the version checker. Had to do something when we all found out about the language.dll fix, eh ?
Gee Thanks
Sue[/quote]
Hi Sue,

Our view on this situation has been and remains consistent. And for what it's worth, the timing of that language.dll trick was coincidental, as we were already committed to the dev work for this fix before it surfaced.

The problem wasn't Simconnect, or the language.dll, or our API, or anything else. There wasn't really even a "problem" to speak of. Both parties knew the source of the issue. Support was already in place for TrackIR during the P3D beta, but was broken due to a minor change in P3D code. After we were made aware of that break, we began discussing how best to go about making sure it didn't happen again.

Our publicly stated preference was to use our own TrackIR API, because we know it's stable and won't be susceptible to unexpected breaks in support. LM's publicly stated preference was to use Simconnect, for their own reasons.

The language.dll "fix" is pertinent to users because it was an interim solution, but it's not related to the core technical discussion we were having with LM. Contrary to speculation, our integration of P3D support did not incorporate that language.dll fix, because it required modifying third party code, which is not the kind of thing we would include in an official software release. (Though, again, it was a great find and useful trick as an interim solution.)

At the end of the day, LM made it clear that they just didn't have the resources to integrate our API. Though it opens the integration back up to interruption from P3D code changes, we agreed to do the work on our end for the benefit of our mutual users. (And LM has promised to keep us better updated if any relevant changes to their code are made, so we can account for them in advance.)

- Seth
Marketing Manager
TrackIR | OptiTrack

Robby Clark
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Re: TrackIR Beta releases, Windows 8 and Prepar3d support

Post by Robby Clark » Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:06 pm

Thanks for the beta update NP Team !! It has been doing fine on my setup. Appears to be closing/ exiting properly, I have not had any hang-ups in task manager so far,
cheers-- rclark

OT2
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Re: TrackIR Beta releases, Windows 8 and Prepar3d support

Post by OT2 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:37 am

I tried just installing without uninstalling the old and it works like a charm. The default settings work as well or better than the special programming I had done. Great job!

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