TIR software hangs up on launch

spotlope
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TIR software hangs up on launch

Post by spotlope »

A curious problem just started happening to me this morning with my TrackIR 4. When I launch the TIR software (v.4.0.0020.0) it ties up my CPU, taking 99% of the cycles, and hangs there for almost 4 minutes before displaying the GUI. Also, occasionally it won't quit when I press the exit button (red "x" in upper right of window) and I have to force quit it. Once this has happened however, my mouse button functionality is scambled so that the left button creates a double-click instead of a single. The only cure is a system reboot.

I thought I'd bring this up in teh hope of getting some resolution. Other than the above problems, this thing is incredible! I've got the Vector expansion, and I can't imagine flying without it now.

thanks,
Bill Womack

[ January 02, 2005, 03:45 PM: Message edited by: Bill Womack ]
Wayne
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Re: TIR software hangs up on launch

Post by Wayne »

Hi Bill,

Lets have a look to see what may be happening here...

Do you have your computer connected directly to your mainboard or through a hub?
Does this happen even if you remove the license files?
Does this happen also in the version 3 software?
What happens if you start your TracKIR software without having your unit connected, does the system still hang?

Please let me know about the questions above.
spotlope
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Re: TIR software hangs up on launch

Post by spotlope »

Thanks for the reply, Wayne. To answer your questions:

1. The TrackIR unit is hooked up to a powered 4-port USB hub

2. Yes, the hang happens exactly the same if I remove the license files

3. I don't have the v.3 software loaded now, but I never had it happen in the past 6 months since I started using it.

4. If I disconnect the trackIR unit and launch, I get the same hang.

I have a little more information for you that might help to diagnose. I've been watching the task manager when I launch my TIR 4 software, and not only does it take up 99% of the cycles while it's waiting to launch the GUI, but it also take progressively more memory. It starts out around 19mb, and takes an additional 4kb approximately each 5 seconds until the program launches (usually around 4-5 minutes later). After launch I've noticed that the memory increase slows somewhat, but still increments up by 4kb at anywhere from 5-10 second intervals. Is this a textbook case of a memory leak? It seems like it might be to me.

thanks,
Bill
Wayne
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Re: TIR software hangs up on launch

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Thanks Bill I received your e-mail also.
spotlope
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Re: TIR software hangs up on launch

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Thanks Wayne... except that I don't recall sending you an email! ???
Nares
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Re: TIR software hangs up on launch

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Hi , first time posting here, and only 2 weeks experience user.
I was running corectly my tir4 software and hadware , but im experiencing the same problem than bill.
I can�t explain it beeter than he:same procesor comsumition, and about 30 min to the software start.4.20 , (and 4.21)
I was playing without any problem my fs9.1, with my vector expansion and modified language.dll.(i experince the error compativility message, but it works)
my experience happened in this way: I was running the game,and i closed the fs9 to made a breack, but ,when i restarted it, i was having the flickering efecct (camera views extension has been unistalled) ive found that its a problem related to the roll axis only.If i uncheck it, all its ok.Anyway , im not sure if the flick problem and software not running are related one to each other.
Then, i closed the tir4 software, and restarted it, it, seems not to load, but i see the process at 99%.If i wait about 30 min, it loads, but the roll axis still not work correctly, im sure its not a curve problem due that i was playing with my bell or cessna finetuning the software with good result before the problem.
I have to said that the same evening,few hours before the problem, i installed and unistalled the 3.12 software, with a problem deleting this key SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USB\Vid_131D&Pid_0155
But i solved the problem with a permision issue in win 2000.But this seems to be a commond problem without other consecuences.
Ive try too all the sugestions indicated to Bill, with same results.
Bill , if you get any solution , plz email it to me.
btw, the few days i ve run 6dof , has made me an
adictded , so i hope a soon solution.
-sorry for my english
Jose Luis Nares

[ January 04, 2005, 06:50 PM: Message edited by: Nares ]
Nares
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Re: TIR software hangs up on launch

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ho, great, i ve finally get the software load correctly, i ve installed alll the software , and unistalled it several times, The last time, the computer give me a blue screen , and when the windows 2000 made the scan disk, it detected some invalid archives, that were deleted, after that i couldent install or uninstall the software, due the damaged files, so i deleted all manually, then, i installed normally and the software loads smooth and fast.
But i still have the roll reset problem in fs9.1, i have to unable it to play 2004 , or i see a flickering effect.pitch yaw and translations are working properly.

[ January 05, 2005, 06:40 PM: Message edited by: Nares ]
Wayne
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Re: TIR software hangs up on launch

Post by Wayne »

Bill,

I was sure that you had e-mailed me... I must be working too hard

Nares,

Check in your FS2004 modules folder to see if there is a dll in there called trackir. Just remove the dll and everything should work normally.
Nares
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Re: TIR software hangs up on launch

Post by Nares »

THX Wayne,!!
true, i ve deleted TrackIR-2002.dll, ithought it was a must for FS to run these dll.
i would had never deleted it.
But, i ve installed it due the installer instructions.
It's the new software getting conex with FS in a diferent way?I remember that 4.21 ask for the Modules path
Anyway, all its runnig great now, and i hope my new posts are about positives sugestions based on my experience.Iwhan to try trair for more time to made my own idea for wishlist.
spotlope
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Re: TIR software hangs up on launch

Post by spotlope »

Hi Wayne,

I'm back in town after a weeklong vacation. I tried uninstalling the previous version of the TrackIR software and installing the new 4.0.021, but I'm getting the same hangs on startup. It's getting a little frustrating I have to say! BTW, I don't have any modules related to TIR in my FS9/modules folder, so that's not the answer to my particular problem. Have you guys had any thoughts on what else might be ailing my setup?

thanks,
Bill
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