Sensitivity and Symmetry

Lollypop
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Sensitivity and Symmetry

Post by Lollypop »

Hi.

I subject you a small worry of adjustments met on the Pacific Fighters.
Adjustments that I accomplish with the editor of Track IR change quite nothing once income in PF.

I explain: I have a screen deported on right (lack of space... and of LCD!) on which put TrackIr. In game, this one does not answer for symmetrical mani�re in left / right movement, especially in ends (Return shoulders, and so on to there... i understand.): It tends to be well turned on right but desesperately rest Scotch-taped in the 90� on the left. Naturally I succeed in ending the movement leaning on the left, or turning the head frankly. BUT it is not the top.

I am the only one in that case of config?

If someone had explication or better as one resolution... I know, it is the street valentin, check, I shall give no flowers but at least one thank you very much!!
Wayne
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Re: Sensitivity and Symmetry

Post by Wayne »

Lollypop,

Not too sure if I understand your problem correctly, so please correct me if I am wrong...

You have mounted your unit on the side of the monitor? Are you using the Vector Expansion?

Is there any way that you can mount the unit horizontal, as this is the ideal position if you are using the Vector Expansion.
Lollypop
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Re: Sensitivity and Symmetry

Post by Lollypop »

No. Screen and track are on the same axe, the one under the other... and not... ok. They're not in front of me, and that is the source of my probS.

I succeded in tune the il2 profile, but i still have a little care: It concerns the Yaw editor:

what is the usefull of the the position which exceeds "10"?
I've noticed, when i try to change the settings, that if you change the values after 10 it changes... Quite NothinG! (heads window)
The tuning range is not as wide as the editor tries to show: Would it be only COSMETIC ?

i think it's a real pity, because it doesn't allow an accurate tuning
Thus,i don't have a "real" smooth display on Pacific fighters. especially when i want to use all the "degrees level" (>140-160�). (sorry for my poor E.),

Have a test and let me know if, for you, range over 10 has a tiny effect.

Thanks by now for your Help.
Lollypop
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Re: Sensitivity and Symmetry

Post by Lollypop »

Is there anyone, over here ??? Wayne ?, Jim ?

Please!
JeanGuy
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Re: Sensitivity and Symmetry

Post by JeanGuy »

Salut Lollypop,

Sorry to see that you are still experiencing problem with your track IR 3. If I read your last tread right you have your TIR3 directly above your monitor, but you yourself are not directly facing them. You will have to somehow change your physical set up so that you ideally face the track IR and your monitor directly head on. You MUST face TIR3 directly head on and adjust it as per directions in this thread:
http://forums.naturalpoint.com/cgi-bin/ ... 4;t=000347

Make sure you read the whole above thread and follow its directions to see if it fixes your problem(s). If it does not fix it post again with greater details on your physical set up and the exact nature of the problem or problems that you are experiencing.

Bonne Chance,
Barred
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Re: Sensitivity and Symmetry

Post by Barred »

Hi Lollypop.

It really is important that the sensor/camera is pointed at the dots and about 2" (5cm) above the top one (if you are using a Vector) or just above if not and right in front of you.

If it is not pointing directly at the reflector (dot) then the tracking information would not match what you are doing with your head.

Say for example you have the sensor to your right. The sensor would 'read' more of your head movement to the right and when you look left the reflector would speed up and leave the sensor's tracking angle.

Oh and I have found that the best distance is about (30-36") roughly 90-100cm.

Good Luck
Lollypop
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Re: Sensitivity and Symmetry

Post by Lollypop »

Thanks for answers!

As the post explains i have centered the green dot and took quite all other advices: The trackir keeps all my movments, but my prob is my shoulders are not "facing" the screen... and so the track. It leads to a slight different response between left and right. I tried to compensate by an "accurate" tuning of the Yaw.

THAT leads to my second question (yet written above) :
what is the usefull of the the position which exceeds "10"?
I've noticed, when i try to change the settings, that if you change the values after 10 it changes... Quite NothinG! (lok at motion in heads window)
The tuning range is not as wide as the editor tries to show: Would it be only COSMETIC ?

Hard to make a precise setting with a such editor... Don't you think?
Barred
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Re: Sensitivity and Symmetry

Post by Barred »

The angle for TIR3 has been narrowed from previous ones. If the old angles had of been kept for the lens of the sensore then the amount of data that would be needed to be sent at the new scan speeds would overload the USB buss data rate.

So to stop this happening the tracking 'view' had to be narrowed. That is why it is more crucial that the sensor has to be close to the centre of your natural head movement as possible. Even if you have managed to centre the green dot in the tracking window the angles would be off like you describe. The only way I could see around your problem, would be to move your TIR onto the main screen in front of you.

[ February 22, 2005, 07:01 AM: Message edited by: Barred ]
Lollypop
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Re: Sensitivity and Symmetry

Post by Lollypop »

Sooo Sad. And a tiny disappointing...
I don't have enough space to put my 17''display in front of me.

I'm gonna have to manage with this little default. (Till i get a lcd screen!)

Thanks a lot, all, for your attention.
Lollypop
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Re: Sensitivity and Symmetry

Post by Lollypop »

Just a "little one more"...

What is the meaning of improve the sensitivity of this stuff,... and narrow the angle or limit the amount of data, just Before.???
... just a Q of...marketing?

I know, it's a cynical Q.
Beg you pardon.
(It's still a good stuff, anyway... but...)
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