Hi,
I have NSR and Racing selected in the TrackIR software. I can not look left or right, only down and back. Usually when I try to look down (actually, I am trying to look left but that is where I end up) it gets stuck for a couple of seconds and I end up crashing into a wall, etc... because it's long enough that I can't see in front of me.
Any ideas?
-paul
Getting stuck in Nascar Sim Racing
Re: Getting stuck in Nascar Sim Racing
Here is a couple of things to try and get you going this I have found from my own usage of my daily dose of TIR.
have the sensor about 30-36" (90-95cm) from the reflector and have the sensor about 2" (5cm) above your top reflector (if you are running the Vector). If you are running the Vector then have the reflector clip at about 90deg to the sensor and have all 3 dots centred in the view window. All these mesurements should be set when you are in your normal resting position so you might need a bit of help gettint the distances ect right.
You probably will need to tweak it a little bit to suit you but those are my adjustments that work for me.
Good Luck.
have the sensor about 30-36" (90-95cm) from the reflector and have the sensor about 2" (5cm) above your top reflector (if you are running the Vector). If you are running the Vector then have the reflector clip at about 90deg to the sensor and have all 3 dots centred in the view window. All these mesurements should be set when you are in your normal resting position so you might need a bit of help gettint the distances ect right.
You probably will need to tweak it a little bit to suit you but those are my adjustments that work for me.
Good Luck.
Re: Getting stuck in Nascar Sim Racing
Wow. That far away? I have it on top of my center speaker, which is on top of my monitor. I can probably push it back another inch, tops. So it will end up being around 29 inches from my TrackIR hat. I got to be able to reach the wheel and the pedals ya know! 
The sensor is about 2 inches above the top reflector of the Vector Expansion on my TrackIR hat, so I should be all set there.
Now, how do I get the Vector clip around 90 degrees to the hat, with all three (+ the red dot) centered? Sorry, a little thick-headed today <g>
There are a couple (as many as 3) red or green tiny dots (like a pin head) that I see at the top left of the tracking screen. I don't know where they are coming from as there is nothing shiny behind me. Well, there is a plastic drawer container behind me holding some fly tying stuff. Don't want to have to move it just for TIR.
Thanks!
quote:Originally posted by Barred:
Here is a couple of things to try and get you going this I have found from my own usage of my daily dose of TIR.
have the sensor about 30-36" (90-95cm) from the reflector and have the sensor about 2" (5cm) above your top reflector (if you are running the Vector). If you are running the Vector then have the reflector clip at about 90deg to the sensor and have all 3 dots centred in the view window. All these mesurements should be set when you are in your normal resting position so you might need a bit of help gettint the distances ect right.
You probably will need to tweak it a little bit to suit you but those are my adjustments that work for me.
Good Luck.
The sensor is about 2 inches above the top reflector of the Vector Expansion on my TrackIR hat, so I should be all set there.
Now, how do I get the Vector clip around 90 degrees to the hat, with all three (+ the red dot) centered? Sorry, a little thick-headed today <g>
There are a couple (as many as 3) red or green tiny dots (like a pin head) that I see at the top left of the tracking screen. I don't know where they are coming from as there is nothing shiny behind me. Well, there is a plastic drawer container behind me holding some fly tying stuff. Don't want to have to move it just for TIR.
Thanks!
quote:Originally posted by Barred:
Here is a couple of things to try and get you going this I have found from my own usage of my daily dose of TIR.
have the sensor about 30-36" (90-95cm) from the reflector and have the sensor about 2" (5cm) above your top reflector (if you are running the Vector). If you are running the Vector then have the reflector clip at about 90deg to the sensor and have all 3 dots centred in the view window. All these mesurements should be set when you are in your normal resting position so you might need a bit of help gettint the distances ect right.
You probably will need to tweak it a little bit to suit you but those are my adjustments that work for me.
Good Luck.
Re: Getting stuck in Nascar Sim Racing
pw, when I say at right angles I meant that when you are looking straight ahead the sensor is in front of you. If the sensor is off to one side it could cause non equal tracking from side to side.
29" should be ok 30-36" is a sugestion only
If the dots in the tracking window are green then TIR is telling you that those are the ones that it is using for the tracking. Red dots are other IR sources that it (TIR) is sensing but not using. If you are getting some slight tracking eregularaties then under the tracking window go into the settings, and turn on the light filtering, try between 60 and 130.
Otherwise Enjoy
29" should be ok 30-36" is a sugestion only
If the dots in the tracking window are green then TIR is telling you that those are the ones that it is using for the tracking. Red dots are other IR sources that it (TIR) is sensing but not using. If you are getting some slight tracking eregularaties then under the tracking window go into the settings, and turn on the light filtering, try between 60 and 130.
Otherwise Enjoy
Re: Getting stuck in Nascar Sim Racing
I get it now! Thanks!
-paul
-paul
Re: Getting stuck in Nascar Sim Racing
The biggest cause of look down freezing happens when you look down and the reflectors of the Vector become tops side on inrelation to the sensor.
At teh 29"+ distance if the reflectors are in the centre of the track view when you are at your normal rest position when looking at the monitor, and the reflectors are parellel to the sensor. These settings are one that I have found out by trial and error.
I originally had a TIR1 and when I first got my TIR3Pro I was having all sorts of problems like the 'Look down lock'. There was not a lot of info about and it was not that easy a concept for my to try and get over as I was not actually having any hardware problems as such because TIR was working, just not in my favorite sim (IL2 FB).
I started doing some experimenting and found that there was 2 sides to the problem. The one mentioned above and me. I was having the track working ok in the track window, but it turns out that I was subconsiously moving my head a lot more whilst in game. I managed to get around the problem of the movement (so I thought) when I purchased a TracHat.
When I got my Vector the TIR ws about 18" back (the TIR1 was 12" to give you a comparison) and I thought I had my prolem sussed. On went the Vector down came my license files and off I went. A very short while later I was getting tracking problems (the vector was on the trackhat). I noticed the red track along with the 3 green ones.
I changed hat to one that has no reflector and it just so happened a flatter bill along with being a bit too small. The overall feel of the tracking immediatly improved but I was still getting the 'Lookdown Lock' mainl along with some sideways as well. I read here that the TIR3Pro had a fixed lens, so as I use to do 3D for a living, it srtuck me that part of the problem was focus, so I did some experiments over a few days and came up with the distances that I advise others to try, as it took me alot of trial and error to come up with them.
The relation between the Vector and the sensor I came across entirely by accident. As my cap that I was getting the best results from was a little too small I had it further back one day and fired up TIR and for the life of me I could not figure out why I was no longer getting the 'Lookdown Lock'. It was my wife that pointed out that the bill of the cap was further back on my head.
I have put all this down to show that yes the optimum tolerences with the Vector are narrower than with out it. But it us possible to find them, just that the solution might not be so obviouse and if others benefit from my head scratching then all the better.
Saying that though, yes there is always improvements to be made either hardware or software or ven a combination of them both and it would be a mistake to think otherwise. All I ask is to give my solution a try and to remember that we are on the cutting edge of technology and we all learn by trial and error.
At teh 29"+ distance if the reflectors are in the centre of the track view when you are at your normal rest position when looking at the monitor, and the reflectors are parellel to the sensor. These settings are one that I have found out by trial and error.
I originally had a TIR1 and when I first got my TIR3Pro I was having all sorts of problems like the 'Look down lock'. There was not a lot of info about and it was not that easy a concept for my to try and get over as I was not actually having any hardware problems as such because TIR was working, just not in my favorite sim (IL2 FB).
I started doing some experimenting and found that there was 2 sides to the problem. The one mentioned above and me. I was having the track working ok in the track window, but it turns out that I was subconsiously moving my head a lot more whilst in game. I managed to get around the problem of the movement (so I thought) when I purchased a TracHat.
When I got my Vector the TIR ws about 18" back (the TIR1 was 12" to give you a comparison) and I thought I had my prolem sussed. On went the Vector down came my license files and off I went. A very short while later I was getting tracking problems (the vector was on the trackhat). I noticed the red track along with the 3 green ones.
I changed hat to one that has no reflector and it just so happened a flatter bill along with being a bit too small. The overall feel of the tracking immediatly improved but I was still getting the 'Lookdown Lock' mainl along with some sideways as well. I read here that the TIR3Pro had a fixed lens, so as I use to do 3D for a living, it srtuck me that part of the problem was focus, so I did some experiments over a few days and came up with the distances that I advise others to try, as it took me alot of trial and error to come up with them.
The relation between the Vector and the sensor I came across entirely by accident. As my cap that I was getting the best results from was a little too small I had it further back one day and fired up TIR and for the life of me I could not figure out why I was no longer getting the 'Lookdown Lock'. It was my wife that pointed out that the bill of the cap was further back on my head.
I have put all this down to show that yes the optimum tolerences with the Vector are narrower than with out it. But it us possible to find them, just that the solution might not be so obviouse and if others benefit from my head scratching then all the better.
Saying that though, yes there is always improvements to be made either hardware or software or ven a combination of them both and it would be a mistake to think otherwise. All I ask is to give my solution a try and to remember that we are on the cutting edge of technology and we all learn by trial and error.
Re: Getting stuck in Nascar Sim Racing
quote:Originally posted by Barred:
29" should be ok 30-36" is a sugestion only
No, I have the same problem. It happens in all games when using the vector (Forgotten Battles, GTR etc). My TIR is on top on my 22" monitor as far back as it can go, about 28-29". Any further back and the sensor loses sight of the lower dots. If I raise TIR up I lose the correct angle in that plane. It is impossible to position properly short of sitting well away from your monitor which would require a ridiculously long desk.
The only real solution is some fix in the driver. It is not possible(practical) to adjust for this look-down-freezing if you have a large monitor. As it is I just have to hit re-centre a lot.
29" should be ok 30-36" is a sugestion only
No, I have the same problem. It happens in all games when using the vector (Forgotten Battles, GTR etc). My TIR is on top on my 22" monitor as far back as it can go, about 28-29". Any further back and the sensor loses sight of the lower dots. If I raise TIR up I lose the correct angle in that plane. It is impossible to position properly short of sitting well away from your monitor which would require a ridiculously long desk.
The only real solution is some fix in the driver. It is not possible(practical) to adjust for this look-down-freezing if you have a large monitor. As it is I just have to hit re-centre a lot.