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After using TIR4 without major problems for 4 years (stopped working)
i now payed 200� for a new TIR 5 today and guess what:it�s software crashed my pc...
i tried the compatibility mode and that made everything worse
drwtsn32.exe error and thats it..what the..
Intel 8400 duo
Ati radeon 4850
Win xp 32

EventType : BEX P1 : drwtsn32.exe P2 : 5.1.2600.0 P3 : 3b7d84a2
P4 : dbghelp.dll P5 : 5.1.2600.5512 P6 : 4802bf71 P7 : 0001295d
P8 : c0000409 P9 : 00000000

Hi DerMo,

Please refrain from posting the same issue on multiple sub-forums. We review all sub-forums on a regular basis, so multi-posting is not necessary to get our attention.

Someone from our support team will jump in to help troubleshoot your problems shortly.

-Seth

Could you perhaps check your event log for the crash information? Preferably without compatibility mode.

[quote=NaturalPoint - Seth]Hi DerMo,

Please refrain from posting the same issue on multiple sub-forums. We review all sub-forums on a regular basis, so multi-posting is not necessary to get our attention.

-Seth [/quote]

you�re right,sorry for that and thanks for your attention.
greetings

[quote=NaturalPoint - Mike]Could you perhaps check your event log for the crash information? Preferably without compatibility mode. [/quote]

I searched for it but don�t know where to find it..
Can you help me? sorry i�m no expert

No problem. Find your "my computer" or "computer" icon (depending on your version of windows), right click on it, and select manage. This will load the system management console. From there, you can access your event logs.

Windows will normally keep a few standard logs, plus any that are managed by windows due to any software you have installed. In this case we want to look for the application log.

The logs default to sorting by date, so if you can narrow down the approximate time of the crash, that will be a good place to start. Once you have the time, look for anything around that time with an error or warning heading, or anything generated by trackir5.exe or your game's executable. Open the entry, copy the information, and post it here for review.

Normal start TrackIR5 software error:

Ereignistyp: Fehler
Ereignisquelle: Application Error
Ereigniskategorie: Keine
Ereigniskennung: 1000
Datum: 19.04.2011
Zeit: 22:35:44
Benutzer: Nicht zutreffend
Computer: DERMO
Beschreibung:
Fehlgeschlagene Anwendung trackir5.exe, Version 5.0.0.300, fehlgeschlagenes Modul atioglxx.dll, Version 6.14.10.10600, Fehleradresse 0x0042bbcc.

Weitere Informationen �ber die Hilfe- und Supportdienste erhalten Sie unter http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Daten:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 46 61 69 6c ion Fail
0010: 75 72 65 20 20 74 72 61 ure tra
0018: 63 6b 69 72 35 2e 65 78 ckir5.ex
0020: 65 20 35 2e 30 2e 30 2e e 5.0.0.
0028: 33 30 30 20 69 6e 20 61 300 in a
0030: 74 69 6f 67 6c 78 78 2e tioglxx.
0038: 64 6c 6c 20 36 2e 31 34 dll 6.14
0040: 2e 31 30 2e 31 30 36 30 .10.1060
0048: 30 20 61 74 20 6f 66 66 0 at off
0050: 73 65 74 20 30 30 34 32 set 0042
0058: 62 62 63 63 0d 0a bbcc..

..TrackIR5 software with compatibility mode:

Ereignistyp: Fehler
Ereignisquelle: Application Error
Ereigniskategorie: (100)
Ereigniskennung: 1000
Datum: 19.04.2011
Zeit: 22:32:19
Benutzer: Nicht zutreffend
Computer: DERMO
Beschreibung:
Fehlgeschlagene Anwendung drwtsn32.exe, Version 5.1.2600.0, fehlgeschlagenes Modul dbghelp.dll, Version 5.1.2600.5512, Fehleradresse 0x0001295d.

Weitere Informationen �ber die Hilfe- und Supportdienste erhalten Sie unter http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Daten:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 46 61 69 6c ion Fail
0010: 75 72 65 20 20 64 72 77 ure drw
0018: 74 73 6e 33 32 2e 65 78 tsn32.ex
0020: 65 20 35 2e 31 2e 32 36 e 5.1.26
0028: 30 30 2e 30 20 69 6e 20 00.0 in
0030: 64 62 67 68 65 6c 70 2e dbghelp.
0038: 64 6c 6c 20 35 2e 31 2e dll 5.1.
0040: 32 36 30 30 2e 35 35 31 2600.551
0048: 32 20 61 74 20 6f 66 66 2 at off
0050: 73 65 74 20 30 30 30 31 set 0001
0058: 32 39 35 64 295d

Is it this what we looking for?
Greetings

This is indicitave of a known issue, not with the TrackIR, but with the ATI driver software and it's inability to properly process OpenGL, as documented here:

http://forum.naturalpoint.com/forum/ubb ... #Post46518

The work around for using compatibility mode was a way that one person was able to fix the issue on their computer, but by no means is a tested and recommended workaround for the majority of systems. Unfortunately, the only real solution is either to replace your video card with an nVidia or other video chipset provider not based in the catalyst software package, or to use the 4.x series of TrackIR software, which is not OpenGL based. The latest version of the TrackIR 4 series software can be found here:
http://media.naturalpoint.com/software/ ... .Final.exe

So it looks like thats the end of the line?
I�ll have to stick with TIR4 software,right? or is there a fix in the works for that?
Greetings

You can disable the heads up display by editing an argument into the settings.xml file, however at that point you're not gaining anything by using the 5 series software.